So every drum track Kanye produced sucks?
That must include everything he produced for Jay, Game, Beanie, Common, Dilla, Cam’Ron, Kweli, Lupe, Nas Mobb Deep and so on.

That’s a lot of hip hop that sucks right there.

Damn, you need to listen to some more Kanye records then.

Without knowing what songs they’re talking about, my guess is that Kanye samples just the snare or the kick or whatever. He makes the rhythm himself with the sampled sound.

Kanye is obviously one of the few producers, that actually still sample “new” drum loops or sounds.
I got the original for “Crack Music”, and he used that drum loop real nice.

95% of all Pete Rock drum patterns are boring as hell.

On the top of that, I find the whole “hip hop can’t sample hip hop” attitude to be total BS. It’s about creativity and originality. Sure using the same samples over and over is wack. And biting whole loops from other hip hop records is wack too.
But if you create an original song, and some of the pieces happen to come from other hip hop records, that’s just creativity.
It’s just like when Chuck D sued Primo and Biggie for sampling “Shot’Em Down”. Chuck D even made a song about sampling himself, but all of a sudden he gets uptight because of the lyrical content in “10 Crack Commandments”.
Did James Brown, Queen, Slayer, Isaac Hayes, Earth, Wind & Fire and Jackson 5 all agree on Public Enemy’s lyrics?

he doesn’t have any soul to know what good drums sound like, so he steals drums.