Pete Rock vs. Kanye West?
Unkut: There was an interview that Kanye West did in Scratch magazine where he was talking about ‘I’ll sample drums off a Pete Rock instrumental if they’re open’. That was kinda funny to me.
Pete Rock: I believe it! I hear my snares out there, and I’m like ‘Wow, that’s fuckin’ crazy, man!’ I feel like that’s lazy shit. You obviously don’t love it as much as I do, because for you to not go out there and find it on your own…you’ll find so much if you just take the time out to go dig, man. We do all the hard work so y’all can just snatch our records up and listen for open snares and kicks? That’s some wack shit. I respect cats that come with their own sound. MORE.
Very interesting.
I remember on Last Call, Kanye goes on to say that he used Dr. Dre’s drums from Xxplosive on a Jay-Z track.
I dunno how I feel about sampling other producers for their drums, but it does seem like a jack move.
With that said, I can’t wait to see ‘Ye at the Glow In The Dark Tour in a few weeks 
May 1st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
why do you think Kanye always be having the weakest drums?
he doesn’t have any soul to know what good drums sound like, so he steals drums.
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:40 am
Kanye weak drums??? ppffttt…
Damn, you need to listen to some more Kanye records then.
Without knowing what songs they’re talking about, my guess is that Kanye samples just the snare or the kick or whatever. He makes the rhythm himself with the sampled sound.
Kanye is obviously one of the few producers, that actually still sample “new” drum loops or sounds.
I got the original for “Crack Music”, and he used that drum loop real nice.
95% of all Pete Rock drum patterns are boring as hell.
On the top of that, I find the whole “hip hop can’t sample hip hop” attitude to be total BS. It’s about creativity and originality. Sure using the same samples over and over is wack. And biting whole loops from other hip hop records is wack too.
But if you create an original song, and some of the pieces happen to come from other hip hop records, that’s just creativity.
It’s just like when Chuck D sued Primo and Biggie for sampling “Shot’Em Down”. Chuck D even made a song about sampling himself, but all of a sudden he gets uptight because of the lyrical content in “10 Crack Commandments”.
Did James Brown, Queen, Slayer, Isaac Hayes, Earth, Wind & Fire and Jackson 5 all agree on Public Enemy’s lyrics?
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:32 am
Pete Rock T.R.O.Y> Kanyes Beats
May 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 pm
I’ve heard all his albums & his drums suck.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm
if u sample soul songs u cant get mad bout someone samplin u
May 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Wow Kinggs, that’s real intelligent and thoughtful.
So every drum track Kanye produced sucks?
That must include everything he produced for Jay, Game, Beanie, Common, Dilla, Cam’Ron, Kweli, Lupe, Nas Mobb Deep and so on.
That’s a lot of hip hop that sucks right there.